This is the link to the audio from the last meeting Shane had with the police Department. The part at about the 13 minute mark is good and the very end when he yells "Is there anyone else who wants to go."
There is also an audio link at the bottom left hand side of the web page.
http://dl9.ohshare.com/v/241679/ShaneMP3Lowquality.mp3.html
Click download file once you get to the site.
Sunday, February 4, 2007
Audio of Shane's meeting with the Police Dept.
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After listening to this, It seems to me that the only problem that is left in the Police Department is that there is no respect for authority.
I feel that it is very strange that the sound quality dropped off as soon as Shane "went crazy" as it has been stated. I did not hear the administrator go "crazy". I heard a difiant officer doing something that he stated over and over again would not be tolerated. Again, no respect for authority.
the outburst occured just after the end of this audio, ask the ones who attended.....
But this was put here as the proof of the outburst. There was no outbust so it appears to me that there is NO PROOF!
Let's clear something right away; This audio stands on it's own merits.
It is informative and gives a glimpse of Hardeeville administration.
I don't think it is proof of the outburst that Seab is eluding too. Unless the outburst is Shane yelling "Is there anybody else that wants to go?" at the end.
Seab, please think more carefully before posting. You are creating confusion whereas this site attempts to be clear and factual.
We enjoy your posts and encourage them but help us out by not making false statements (e.g. "But this was put here as the proof of the outburst.")
I'm sorry Seab that you weren't apart of the meeting, you talk as if you were. Just enjoy you position why you have it and keep smiling on h"ville tv.
"keep smiling on h"ville tv"????????
Not sure what you are eluding to here. I have NEVEr been on Hardeeville TV in my life.
How is he a defiant officer when the first thing he said was, "I quit"? Sounds to me like he was the only one in the room with any morals, conscience or backbone. The only screaming or threats that I heard were from Shane. The only thing I heard from the officer was a man who was so fed up with the illegal shit going on there that he decided he'd had enough. Shane's outbursts, threats and straight out 'hissy fits' are all widely known by every employee at that department. They almost always follow his spewing of religious rhetoric which, by the way, everyone sees as bullshit as well. Is shane issuing out keepsake knives like the Hitler youth were given in the 30's? Let's ask Brooks...I think he graduated high school around that time.
He was defiant because the officers had been instructed that this meeting was not the place to discuss the issues. He should have resigned by going through his chain of command.
If he had already made up his mind that he was quitting then the fact that the officers had been instructed that this meeting was not the place to discuss the issues didn't apply to him. If you're leaving a job then you don't go through any type of 'chain of command'. You're saying that he needed to tell the corporal who would then run it by the sergeant who would then run it by the lieutenant. The chain of command is used for personnel issues and requests neither of which applies to anyone quitting the job. If it does make you feel any better, though, the entire 'rag tag' chain was in the room at the time. I also heard Shane tell everyone that if they wanted to discuss the things that have been happening he would be glad to sit down with them after they run the request up the chain. Why hasn't anyone made that request so far? Because they'll be fired for bringing into light the things they know. Such was the case when a certain corporal saw a 4 figure check, (violating city policy), made out to the lieutenant a little while back. He was told that the council wanted him fired simply for seeing it. Funny how they wanna go after the people who KNOW things but not the people who DO things.
I keep noticing that everyone keeps referring to city policy. There is
no city policy! The only so called employee handbook or city policy
was dissolved during the “Henderson” administration. The only policy
the city knows is to pick up the phone and call the city attorney and ask
can they/we do that? And Seab! I don’t think you have enough fingers
and toes to keep plugging up those holes in the dam.
SEAB = BEAS? not sure on the name and why you chose it?
I would think if this was an attempt to make everybody possibly
believe its her, she would probably be a little more intellectual on
the subject matter at hand.
The name wasn't an attempt to make anyone think anything. It is just a user name and has personal meaning to only me.
But I will guarantee that I am no one that would interest any of you.
I agree oneofmanyvitims...Hardeeville fact finder, I would guess it is her. Who else would try protect such acts in the city. "their is no proof" shut up with that and go pet your kitties. I'll I have to say is I dont't give a shit what happens it Hardeehell. I just fill for my fellow officers who are still there and the picture of LT(intern chief) on the home page? funny !! I love it.
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I will have a hard time petting my kitties, Pop-50. I do not own any!
I will say this one more time. I am not in a leadership position in Hardeeville or in any other local city or county. I have nothing to gain or to loose here.
meow meow.....seab, thats all we see when you make a comment.
Well, perhaps "meow, meow" will not be seen here and this post WILL be read. Seab is either using an obvious ploy to get you to believe he/she is Mrs. Jones, or it's a strange coincidence. Having known Mrs. Jones for a number of years, I'll tell you that she is much more intelligent than any of you are giving her credit for. Trust me on this, you would not be able to identify Mrs. Jones by her user name alone. She's not that stupid, and the few of you on here that actually believe she would just spell her name backwards and hope not to be identified obviously do not know her at all.
Please do not believe that I agree with any of the things that have been going on with the city, but please leave innocent people out of this. I have not read one negative thing on this site about Mrs. Jones, so we don't even know her standings on these subjects, I can only assume that she is doing her job and backing up her fellow employees as best she can and that she is going to try to make changes subtlely and not in such a way that she will be let go immediately, which is what happens when you try to make big waves. Trust in some of your city representatives, not all of them are out to get you. Hopefully changes will be made to those of them who are.
On a side note, Mr. Haynes, I do believe that you look at yourself in the mirror every morning, but I do not believe it is to ask your self if you are ready to do your job, but merely to giggle and rub your hands together as you think of ways you can disrupt the lives of everyone living or working in Hardeeville.
Also Mr. Haynes, good job coaching the police, who are here to serve and protect us, the citizens of Hardeeville, not to talk to us. Ignorance is bliss, this appears to be the city's view point. Thank you so much for filling us in on this new motto, but had you attended WHES, you would have realized that that's their motto, get your own. I have an idea, how about this motto Mr. Haynes : "Separation of Church and State? We don't need no separation of Church and State!" This would appropriately reflect not only your obvious opinion on the matter, but would also make you appear to be an alumni of WHES.
Mr Haynes' comments about not discussing these matters outside of the department are both shocking and appalling (sp?). If you have nothing to hide, why hide behind a veil of secrecy? I know at one time there were officers working at the department who had a habit of taking a story, twisting, distorting it in their favor and going around to local business people and spouting, but this is ridiculous.
Concernedinhville,
Thanks for your diplomatic comments. I agree with your comments concerning Bea Jones. Let's focus on the issues here not not and working out who is who. We have screen names for a reason! If any of us wish to be identified it will be on our terms and when we decide. And it is not the aim of this blog.It is a forum for frustrated ex-employess, citizens and other concerned indivduals as to the immoral, unethical and illegal behavior of a few prime suspects.
Shane I have two words for you: Accountability and Respect. Please look them up,reflect on them and attempt to incorporate them into your working practice. You have attained your position through the hand of God. He expects you to be respectful and accountable.
For a bunch of people that complain about the Lt.'s spelling you sure are not thinking.
So, you think my user name spelled backward spells beas? Look again, I believe it would be saeb!
I repeat! I AM NOT MS. JONES.
"not discussing these matters outside of the department are both shocking and appalling"
Actually, last time I checked, this would be called confidentiality. Nothing shocking or appalling about that at all.
confidentiality about what?
"not discussing these matters outside of the department are both shocking and appalling"
"Actually, last time I checked, this would be called confidentiality. Nothing shocking or appalling about that at all."
Without confidentiallity this country would be the "Divided States" - absolutely without question. With spies, intelligence, counterintelligence, and all other forms of espionage there is a definite need for confidentiallity, i.e. secrets.
What is confidential about public officials being fired and the town being shaken up? What is confidential about elected officials being drunk in public and not going to jail? This is all information that the g.p. should know about to make intelligent voting decisions through the DEMOCRATIC process.
Now, if there are spies and the abovementioned espionage going on that would lead to the demise of the town of Hardeeville as we know it.... then keep secrets.
You know the sad thing is HPD has lost some really good officers with allot of experiance, and common sense. I also would hate to think about living or having a business in a town where there are more Un Certified SCLE Officers working with little or no experiance, versus Certified SCLE Officers. Sad to think that, also to have an Interim Chief acting in public the way he has, Sounds like ABUSE OF POWERS ie... THE BADGE. He was doing all of this as an LT, hard to imagine what could be next since he is "Chief" Oh and ask him about his alcoholic, Coke Head friend who used to work for Hardeeville, but resigned after being asked to Pee in a cup after being questioned about alleged use of Cocaine.
outoftheloop,
Respectfully, in my opinion, and you can respectfully disagree, HPD has lost a lot experience and some, not all, good people; but the community must move forward. Emotionally speaking, many would say those who have moved on are the very best! But in all reality, who is to say? Maybe better officers and better employees will eventually replace all who have moved on. As for the uncertified officers, the state actually gives a newly hired officer one year from the date of hire to become certified in the state. Because of liability, very few police chiefs or sheriffs would have an uncertified hire actually patrolling the streets and enforcing the laws on his or her own. If this is so, how long has this been going own, just recently? Or, has this been a long-standing custom, being mentioned now, because the clear consensus of the commentators on this site is the Lt is incompetent? The good news is if the Lt is as bad as said by many, he will be taken care of. Just wait and see. To end, I respond to anyone who agrees or disagrees, if they can refrain from personal attacks and name calling, because of my opinion.
while it's true that uncertified officer may work for a year prior to being certified, it is not common place to have those officers patrolling the streets on their own without some prior training by and FTO.
This situation is NOT new to ANY town. In the manner it's portrayed by posters here it certainly is unusual.....
Yes, you are correct. But if non-certified, inexperienced police officers are patrolling any city alone, that city is putting itself and the taxpayers’ dollars in tremendous jeopardy into today’s lawsuit happy environment. Not only that, citizens of that city deserves a higher level of service.
Perhaps they've overlooked this.. being so high up on the totem pole prevents them seeing what's right at their 'feet'... just a guess
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