Monday, January 29, 2007

Hardeeville Business members receive letter.

Hardeeville Business members receive letter.

To whom it may concern (and hopefully, it will concern some!):
From: A long time resident of the wonderful city of Hardeeville



Regarding the Hardeeville Police Department, and the so called restructuring of same:

I have several questions that I believe should be addressed.
Do the members of the Hardeeville Town Council realize what is going on in the Police department? Yes, the termination of the Chief was probably warranted, however, several concerns now arise. The placement of power and supervision has now been bestowed on one who has been known to represent Hardeeville in an unprofessional manner, to say the least. Incidents of public alcohol intoxication, driving the city vehicle for personal use (hunting, fishing, personal long distance trips and alcohol use while in the city vehicle), of which were known to have been reported to upper level management by members of the community or by officers of the department, were obviously ignored or approved of and now have been rewarded by promotion to interim chief. Professionalism (or maybe education) is certainly not a strong point for the interim chief, as evidenced by department memos that are filled with grammatical and spelling errors, sent on a department letterhead that self appoints the lieutenant as the “Intern” chief instead of interim chief. To speak with officers, the morale is certainly at an all time low (that is, when officers dare to speak, for they have been threatened with termination if they speak to the citizens or members of the council regarding what is happening in the police department or discussion of the behavior of the upper management in recent meetings at city hall).

Do the members of the council realize who is patrolling their streets? Four officers are not yet certified (have not yet attended the South Carolina Criminal Justice Academy), and in fact have no prior law enforcement experience. Three are certified patrolmen, on Corporal, one Sergeant and the interim Chief (who, by the way, is not a legal South Carolina resident which is a requirement to be a police officer here. He lives in Rincon, GA, yet holds a South Carolina drivers license, which I believe to be a violation of the law). As a matter of fact, only one officer resides in the city limits.

Do the council members realize that increased revenue, by way of traffic enforcement, seems to be the goal for upper management? Do they realize that upper management would be satisfied with the elimination of the current police department, having a clean slate, so to speak, at the expense of the safety of the citizens of Hardeeville? A suggestion was made by same upper management, (who also does not reside in South Carolina), that the Sheriff’s department could answer calls in the interim. As you may be aware, Jasper County in a very large county with two deputies routinely covering the entire area. Response time would certainly be increased dramatically. With the expected growth, who will be drawn to out city?

I cannot understand, if council members area aware of such conduct, how they allow this behavior to continue. If this type of behavior is condoned by our elected leaders, what kind of community or family environment are we choosing to live in? Hometown Hardeeville is fast becoming a thing of the past and other law enforcement communities look at us as a joke.

I am, apologetically, writing this letter anonymously. I fear that revealing my identity would being hardship, even retaliation, on me yet I feel that it’s time for things to come to light.

Following are incidents that are documented, (or can be verified), involving the acting interim chief:

Frequently socializes with his subordinate officers, with heavy alcohol use, in the city vehicle. On one such occasion, requested an on duty Hardeeville officer, (in a marked unit), to meet with him and follow him home, (out of state), maintaining cell phone contact so as to advise him when he was leaving the road. The officer, upon returning to the city, reported the incident to his supervisor and the police chief.

A citizen, dining on a late night at the Waffle House, observed an intoxicated Lt. Martin shooting spitballs and heckling a Hardeeville police officer who was working off duty there. This incident was reported to City Hall by said citizen.

Very shortly after above incident, the same lieutenant was observed drinking at a Bluffton restaurant/bar, (again with the subordinate officers), throwing food that prompted an altercation with another diner.

The lieutenant was counseled on above activity and advised that he was no longer to socialize in public with subordinate officers, yet continues to do so.

During hunting season, the lieutenant’s city vehicle was observed frequently unattended at mile marker 4 on I-95 while he was hunting. It is an ordinance violation to hunt in the city limits. The city vehicle has also been seen pulling a personal boat around town.

As a last note, the weekend after being named interim chief, he socialized with his subordinate officers, (heavy alcohol consumption was involved), resulting in one officer unable to report for duty the following night.

The city manager’s behavior at a recent meeting with the police department employees should be reviewed.

In closing: Is the appointed interim chief the best we could do? Is this the direction that the council is entrusting the city manager to lead the police department in? Is this the kind of city that the council wants for it’s citizens?

CC: members of city council, The Island Packet, The Beaufort Gazette, The Blutton Today, Savannah Morning News, Hardeeville City Hall, Hardeeville Businesses.

59 comments:

It's Janet. Miss Jackson If You're Nasty. said...

So this site won't be monitored by Rob Dewig? For those who don't know,
he is a member of the Bluffton Today staff who is known, (and
documented), to report directly to Mr. Haynes the identities of any
persons blogging about Hardeeville 'business' on the Bluffton Today
website. Perhaps the person who posted on BT last week concerning the
goings on at city hall the day the chief got fired will find their way
here and post it up where it, (hopefully), won't be deleted. Kudos to
whoever started this site! You might wanna update your photo of Mr.
Haynes though. Just add about 60 or 70 pounds and you'll have it!!
As for this letter, I heard rumors about it floating around for the last few days. It's about time the truth comes out! Hopefully this will force city hall to deal with these issues rather than just trying to ignore them in hopes that they'll just disappear. As for that Lieutenant, ('intern' chief. Hysterical!), I've heard it told that he received some pretty substantial 4 figure checks from the former treasurer for 'comp time' that was cashed in even though that was a strict violation of city policy. So now they not only have put a drunk driving liar in power, but a thief as well. Can they really trust someone who was more than willing to stab his own chief in the back?

It's Janet. Miss Jackson If You're Nasty. said...

Something else from Hardeeville's own website...



SALARY: $30,000 PER YEAR

MINIMUM TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE
Graduation from a standard high school or GED. Minimum age is 21. Valid S.C. driver's license required.

DESIRABLE KNOWLEDGES, SKILLS, AND ABILITIES
Ability to maintain positive customer-focused relationships with co-workers, supervisors, agencies, the general public and all other internal and external customers. Personally demonstrates appropriate customer service skills.



Ability to pass background check and pass Basic Law Enforcement training at the S.C. Criminal Justice Academy

Ability to work with diverse neighborhoods in the proactive identification of problems and the development and implementation of solutions.

Ability to analyze situations quickly and objectively and to determine proper course of action.

Ability to cope with situations firmly, courteously, tactfully, and with respect for the rights of others.

Ability to react quickly and calmly under emergency conditions.

Ability to understand and carry out oral and written instructions.

Ability to write and speak effectively.

Ability to develop skill in the use and care of firearms.

Ability to meet such specific physical requirements as may be established by competent authority.

SPECIFIC DUTIES
Patrols a designated area of the City to prevent and discover crime; enforces traffic and parking regulations; answers calls and complaints, taking necessary police action; administers first aid; operates radar equipment in speed checks; serves warrants. Conducts preliminary investigations; gathers evidence, locates witnesses, and makes arrests; appears in court to present evidence and testify against persons accused of crimes. Receives and processes arrested persons; books prisoners and completes related forms. Patrols school zones and high activity areas; directs traffic; checks for parking violations; investigates accidents; recovers stolen automobiles. Provides information to public on laws and ordinances. Performs administrative duties; answers telephone calls and greets visitors; prepares reports and records. Performs duties relating to fraudulent checks. Performs all other duties as may be assigned to meet organizational needs.

The City of Hardeeville is an EOE employer.

Contact Information
Lt. Dan J Martin dmartin@cityofhardeeville.com
Hardeeville Police Department 843-784-2233
21 Martin St P.O.Box 582, Hardeeville, SC 29927

That's a job opening ad they have listed which shows that you must have a valid South Carolina drivers license to even apply for the job. So how then does the lieutenant live in Georgia and hold that job here? I believe it's not only a requirement of the city, but a requirement of the state as well.

seab said...

It seems to me that anyone that is willing to send out a letter like this should go before the city council with the concerns. Only a coward would send out a letter like this and not be willing to sign it. Sure, this person may fear retaliation...but if they do anything to him/her they would have a lawsuit. So, go ahead...show your face. Lend some credibility to what you are saying.

It's Janet. Miss Jackson If You're Nasty. said...

Why should they? A private citizen went to city hall with the incident concerning him being drunk at the Waffle House and nothing was done. Then another officer went to them about him driving his patrol car drunk and nothing was done. The list goes on but I think you get the point.

seab said...

Why should they? Because as long as they are not willing to show who they are, nothing they say will be taken seriously.

Instead of being a part of the solution, he/she is choosing to be a part of the problem.

Anonymous said...

Ok Seab, point taken.

So in keeping with your idea, why don't you share your identity with us?

Your logic seems to indicate that no matter if someone fears reprisal or not, taht they should still reveal their identity.

I see your identity is hidden. Should we label you as a coward?

Let me know whether or not you will share your identity, then I will decide whether or not to take you seriously.

seab said...

I am not the one that is spouting accusations and offering no real proof to back them up. I am not the one that is publicly slandering others.

If what is being said is indeed true, then why not have the courage to stand up and fight?

Anonymous said...

First of all, it's not slander, it's libel.

Slander is spoken not written.

However, for something to be considered libel it must be proven that the one making the libelous charges did so with malicious intent and with full knowledge that the statements were false.

The key word here is proven.

seab said...

I have a feeling that if you had proof that you would be putting it here.

It's Janet. Miss Jackson If You're Nasty. said...

Sounds to me like someone has been sent here to 'fish' for identities. What do ya' say Seab, (or should I say Oldguard?), are you the worm on the end of Shane's rod? As for proof of all these goings on, you can ask pretty much ANY officer in Hardeeville...Oh wait...Maybe you can't since they've all been threatened by Shane to be fired if they so much as breathe a word of any of this to their own mothers. As for the lieutenant not even living in SC, if you can find an in state address for him I'm sure everyone here would like to see it. His drunk driving escapades aren't as easily proven but have been witnessed by numerous officers at that department. Find one that isn't there anymore, (which shouldn't be too difficult), and they'll more than likely all have the same reply.

Anonymous said...

Administrator, I realize this blog has had quite a few hits, but I am also aware the only way to affect change is to 'get to the masses'.

In order to implore the people of Hardeeville to fight (see what I did there?!)is to get this blog out there.

Is there anyway to advertize this blog in a more concrete way around hardeeville? Fliers? Posters?

Anonymous said...

Good point.

I am considering moving this site to a proper domain where it can be ranked in the search engines.

Also, word of mouth is a good start, so please feel free to let anyone know who might be interested.

seab said...

I will just say that I am not "fishing" for anything and I am not Oldguard. Just someone that is concerned about the way you are choosing to conduct this "protest" of what is going on.

Anonymous said...

this is a wonderful site to vent frustrations, one of the biggest being that nothing seems to be getting accomplished despite the presence of the letter and the blogs. seems that the feeling with city hall must be 'ignore it and it will go away'. at least let the public know taht the allegations are being investigated.......

seab said...

of course nothing is getting done, you are going abou thtis the wrong way. What exactly do you want to happen?

pop-50 said...

You know what I say about Hardeeville?? Get tha F""" Out , run for your life. I did, know more stress for the HHP ( Hardeeville Highway Patrol) for those of you not on the inside."Intern" Chief, LT quit your job now, go to school instead!

Anonymous said...

seab, i don't know exactly what i would like to see happen, but a good start to winning the trust of the public may be for the council (or the manager)to acknowledge the presence of the allegations, and genuinely listen to officer's complaints (without erupting in a screaming fit that downgrades the officers and causes more respect lost for the upper management), and follow up with what has been discovered.
to POP-50----everyone is very frustrated, but resulting to ugly language will help no one...

seab said...

And after listening to the audio, I believe that the proper way to communicate those complaints were given to the officers many times. I heard no screaming fits, only the administrator trying to call to order a meeting that had gotten out of control by a defiant officer.

Anonymous said...

what audio are you talking about? the one that was turned off prior to the outburst?

seab said...

Yes, the one that was posted here did not have any actions that were stated here. The meeting seemed stern but very much in line with what is acceptable and professional on the adminstrator's part. The only unprofessionalism I heard what that of the officer that decided it was appropriate to start the outburst.

Anonymous said...

i guess every side has a story....and i have not heard the audio.

Anonymous said...

ok, now i know the tape you talk about....that one ended as soon as the so called 'defiant officer' was asked to leave, was not forcibly removed, walked out on his own, yes, calling out because he was not allowed to comment any further. what was not heard was the degrading manner the manager spoke to the remaining employees.

seab said...

Then I guess that you would agree with me. Since the outburst was not heard, then there is no proof of such an event. Just as there is no proof of other allegations that have been made here.

Change will never be made with empty allegations in which no proof exists. Therefore, it is my conclusion, that the only purpose for this site is to place doubt on the leadership of the community. How will this achieve anything? The only thing to be gained by these attacks is to put the town in jeopardy and the hard work that has been done to improve the city will have been for nothing.

Anonymous said...

seab...make no mistake.....I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU......i stated earlier that what was not heard on the audio was the degrading manner the manager spoke to the remaining employees AFTER the officer left. listen again to the audio and pay attention to the part where the manager threatens job termination if anyone discusses the matter 'on the street, to council members, to your family'. and let's talk about immoral, illegal, or unethical....put a man in charge that he has known for 6 years (and honestly does not know the type of behavior he exhibits?) sounds like he's really in touch with the employees and goings on in the city. and immoral, how dare someone quote scripture when at least one of the ten commandments is being breached! here's some 'full' proof, as opposed to empty allegations of a drunk driver (city official) can be heard on dispatch recordings on the night in question, the officer called in the description of the vehicle, and the personalized tag #, as i heard on my scanner!
please explain the hard work that has been done to improve the city so i can understand what you are so defensive of.......

pop-50 said...

Sorry for the language S..

seab said...

Defensive? I have not been defensive. I am simply expressing another possible side of the story.

As for the allegations that are being made regarding the driving, I am not responding because I do not have any facts and do not know if it is true or not. Personally, I do not care because this person is human and can make mistakes.

I am assuming here that you are also human and have made mistakes as well.

Wiley Coyote said...

Okay folks, you heard it here first. All drunk drivers should be allowed to continue on their way because they are 'human and can make mistakes'. As for the meeting, the part that is missing is the part where Shane began screaming at the top of his lungs, (which you can clearly hear the beginning of at the end of the recording), saying, "You police officers with your big guns and big badges. It's you that stabbed Jimmy in the back!" Unless he was standing directly in front of Lt. Martin and putting his finger on the end of his nose then he was accusing a bunch of innocent patrol officers who were only able to sit there and take it. Shane has a bad habit of dangling their certifications over their head like a piece of candy to get them to do his bidding. Unfortunately, that didn't work with the chief though!!!

seab said...

That is not what I said and you know it. You all have this wonderful ability to twist things to make them appear as you need it to.

That alleged incident is a non-issue. This person was NOT arrested. Therefore, to bring it up now has no relevance to the matter at hand.

It's Janet. Miss Jackson If You're Nasty. said...

Calm down now. Don't get all Wiley on us. Nobody is twisting anything around. You said...

"As for the allegations that are being made regarding the driving, I am not responding because I do not have any facts and do not know if it is true or not. Personally, I do not care because this person is human and can make mistakes."

Funny how you seem to respond to this with 'I do not have any facts and do not know if it is true or not', but yet on things like Shane's screaming fit at the end of that meeting you seem to defend him to the death even though you don't have the facts about that either. Please don't pick and choose here.

Wiley Coyote said...

"That alleged incident is a non-issue. This person was NOT arrested. Therefore, to bring it up now has no relevance to the matter at hand."

So maybe there needs to be a separate blog about his well know escapades. Also, the fact that he was NOT arrested is exactly the point some of us are trying to make. Funny how Jimmy Hubbard saved his ass that night but yet he was still willing to kick him to the curb. That's okay though. South Carolina highway patrol is known to watch over alot of roads between Katie O'Donald's and Hardeeville.

seab said...

Not picking or choosing. The reason I will respond to the issue about Shane is because "proof" was presented in that recording and honestly, it wasn't proof for me. To post an audio that did not have him going "crazy" and then to expect me to take your word for it because the audio stopped just before it happened is just dumb. Hopefully, someone besides myself will realize that.

Anonymous said...

HEY SEAB,CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS BEING DONE ABOUT THE FAR WEST RODEO AND THERE NOISE. AND DO NOT SAY IT IS IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS BUT IT IS AFFECTING THE MOTELS,STORES ECT... THIS IN TURN IS TAKING MONEY FROM THE TOWN.WELL IF YOU CAN ANSWER I WILL BE BACK ON LATER TO READ YOUR ANSWER.THANK YOU

Coach said...

I decided to visit this Website because I am interested in Hardeeville and I want to see this city progress and succeed. This is a chat room for plain old simple hate. With that said, the Martin guy (LT) is only the interim, not Intern police chief. He won't withstand the competition of a national search. In fact, you can count on 50 applicants from FL and another 50 from VA. Trust me.

pop-50 said...

Hey wbsdbk good luck on the far west rodeo problem. You got some high ranking hardeeville city officials in on the money being made from there. Go out to the far west rodeo, you'll probably see the mayor standing at the door, I did when we worked security there. So good luck with that one.
We had a drunk hispanic male leave there walk down to hwy 17 and get hit and killed but as long as money is getting made for certain people, who cares!!

"CitizenKane" said...

so if u were working security why did not call hpd,u killed that man u knew and u did nothing.so how much money did u make.

pop-50 said...

Sounds like "I-am-coming-to-get-u!" went to the same school as the LT. Come get you some!

Anonymous said...

hey pop 50,I have notified our state rep. about the situation and sounds like something might get done I have to give him a call back. the mayor,and the owner need to watch out I.N.S. is watching.thanks to me and the state rep.they will not know when it will happen.oh yea LT. if you read this go ahead and call I.N.S. they will not confirm nor deny they are watching the place.thanks to the state rep.which i will call again today. thanks everyone.

Anonymous said...

ok lets spell this out so the people will know who they can ask if there is any doubt that these incidents took place.( sorry to the officers that talked to me but enough is enough.)
1. frequently socializes with subordinate officers, with heavy alcohol use in the city vehicle ( officer McIntosh, German, Broxton, Lowery)

2. The officer that was made to follow Lt. Martin home drunk in the city Vehicle while on duty in a marked unit from hardeeville to Rincon,Ga. was officer Callias.

3. The Officer that was working the Waffle House the night that Lt.martin came in and started shooting spit balls and heckling the officer was Officer Callias

4. the Officers that were with Lt.Martin at the bluffton restaurant (Wild Wings) when the food altercation took place were McClatchy, Callias, and (German who left before the food was thrown)

5. As for the hunting and fishing stuff that stands own its own. Unless someone cares to have DNR check to see if Lt.martin is buying a in state or out of state hunting and fishing license.
The first week that officer Lowery was on the job,Lt.martin took him, while they were both on duty, to put corn out at his hunting spots in the city.

6. And as the last note the officers that were partying with the Interim Chief the weekend he was named Interim Chief were Officers Lowery and German. I do not know who was unable to report for duty the next night but I am sure that the city knows.

7. Some of these Officers are still with the department and some have moved on but it is not hard to see why Officer Callias left the same day they named Lt.martin Interim Chief.

Seab if this does not give you enough information so that you can figure it out, try talking to the officers involved after all, they are allowed to testify to what they saw in court.

seab said...

Yes, they would be allowed to testify in the court as to what they witnessed. But in a court of law, one only has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. I believe that since this is not a courtroom the standards are higher in terms of what would be considered proof.

pop-50 said...

Seab..I don't want to waste anymore of my finger strength to reply to your stupidness Just keep your damn cats out of the road. AS for LT's memos, I still have the copy of my monthly were he circled my number of tickets wrote and stated " If you can't do better than this you need to find another place to work" Shane needs gas money so his expedition can pull his fat ass home to GA. ( I added the last part)

pop-50 said...

Hey S good job you spelled callias correct!

"CitizenKane" said...

administrator1 how long will your wife let u keep THIS JOB!!!

new2hardeeville said...

Seems to me that if you wonderful citizens of Hardeeville cared so much for your community you would not air your dirty laundry out in public .I would almost be sure that if we took all the minds of the people who have been on this blog and let them unite we would have a better Hardeeville and not a town where people and new developments would not be ashamed to say I am in Hardeeville. As for an old Hardeeville and a new one every city that has been through any growth in the past decade has had to deal with changes. There will always be an old part to any city, it is not unusual for city officials to scratch the backs of these developers to bring in much needed revenues .It sounds like to me that if the jealousy and the envy does not end soon this will be the undoing of what could be a great community.

pop-50 said...

new2hardeeville... if your really new to hardeeville I suggest you pack your stuff back up and go back where you came from..Hurry do it now!!

Anonymous said...

I-am-coming-to-get-u,

I don't blame you for gambling with that comment but I would be beyond shocked if you actually knew my identity.

If you think you know my identity, feel free to spell it out, if you can.

Anonymous said...

new2hardeeville-this is a site where we can get info out in the open. we are not airing our dirty laundry in public, as you think. we have aired our dirty laundry to city hall (several incidents documented as being reported) and nothing has been done. even at town council meetings, the public who wishes to speak is met with,'we will not take comments on that matter'.we have tried the routine route and nothing is being done, thus the frustration lies.....how do we do something about it other than going public with what we know.and pray tell, what jealousy and envy are you talking about? the jealousy of our interim cheif portraying the HPD as ignorant imbibers? or maybe the envy of upper management enjoying special favors from office staff, while enjoying a hefty salary that allows for toddler like behavoir when thing are not his way?

Anonymous said...

I've read and re-read these statements about who did what and when. It leaves me wondering why the officer followed the Lt home... why didn't he do his job, or make other arrangements for someone to come and get the Lt? By doing that, didn't he leave the town 'unprotected'? Imagine what happens when the Lt gets mad and tries to have the officer fired... can you see the headlines and the lawsuit? The other issues of the Lt drinking and partying with subordinates.. well, it goes without saying that under any circumstance that under military rule that would be improper. The police department is not a military organization, so why is it a problem? Everyone is accountable for their own decisions, these officers didn't seem to mind drinking with their 'drinking buddy' did they? These are grown men who are paid to make grown men decisions. At the very least, the Lt should have been reprimanded. There is no policy in that department, other than what is written on paper and thrown in your in-box for that day, subject to tomorrow's new 'policy'.

"CitizenKane" said...

administrator1 i really know who u r.but i going to play with u first.u think u r so smart,but we all know who is feeding u information on the city.just keep on writing those tickets.wiley coyote i am so disappointed in u.its breaks my heart.by the way where is bill horton ugly mug pic.also if there is any mispell words fix them.thanks

Phantom said...

So, i-am-coming-to-get-u!, you confirm that the info "being fed" to administrator1 is, in fact, coming from within the city? Very interesting, since others are saying it's only heresay. And why the mention of Bill Horton? Seems to me he's the ONLY one on city council looking for the truth. Funny thing about the truth is that it always seems to appear sooner or later.

Anonymous said...

It is very strange to these things are being ignore:

1. Why would the upper management (as they are referred to) decide to terminate a Chief of Police who clearly states that he was not ready to retire from carrying out his first duty which was protecting and serving the citizens and the businesses of this town? Does it make any sense to take away someone who is very familiar with the territory and people here? Hubbard was a part of the growth that's been happening since he joined when it was a four man force. Why was he not good enough for the expected growth?

2. Has it not clicked in the minds of people (especially Hardeeville) as to why that over half the town staff live in another county or another state (Georgia, Walterboro, Beaufort)? The tax monies that are being spent in those other places can trickle back into the Hardeeville tax base (don't you think?) Such as paying taxes, or patronizing local stores? Don't forgetthe gas being used in city (tax paid) vehicles, which are being used to go to and from work (and who knows where else). These people don't live in H'ville, so citizens can't see any misuse if any. These vehicles (other than police vehicles) need tires, servicing, etc. Who foots that bill? At lease 3 or 4 other vehicles (white in color) sit in the parking lot of city hall around the clock. Why were they purchased? If not needed then why get them? One (white Charger) is only driven to the post office and back to the office (another waste).
3. It has been said that Shane will move to Traditions. Well, if that's true then was the ordinary Hardeeville that he came to work for six or seven years ago not good enough for him to live in? Traditions is? He always says his heart and best interest is for the people of Hardeeville. "Moving On Up" and past the little people that have made it possible(with that salary increase) for him to move to Traditions.

4 Why are the citizens not concerned about the outcome of the audit (that taxpayers money paid for). Demand a public work shop or something so that it can be clearly broken down with the results and facts.

Some citizens may think about these things, but of course they can't ask any questions. Yet, they live in America, Ha Ha.. makes me wonder

Anonymous said...

In relation to your comment unexpectedbill, I also have heard a widely circulated story surrounding Shane and the ordering of his new gas guzzler. Although I am skimpy on details, I do recall him screaming at fellow city staff when he found out it would be two weeks late. He told a certain close lady staff member to cancel his car if he was going to be made to wait for it! Of course he didn't, who would turn down a brand new SUV paid for by the tax payers of h'ville?

My biggest gripe is the fact that he had installed the optional rear seat DVD player. Why does the city administrator need a rear seat DVD player? And how does it help him do his job more effectively? It doesn't...it was for his kids. We don't want the little darlings getting bored on the way to Walmart now do we?

Again, another example of misappropraited public funds. DVD player indeed....up your own ass more like, Shane.

Anonymous said...

as the late great Johnny Carson would say: I did NOT know THAT! That's weird wild STUFF! I know of a mayor in a much larger city north east of Columbia who drives nothing more than a crown vic... With the pay Shane Haynes receives you'd think that he could make his OWN car payment out of HIS check. Even the city manager of that same town drives a crown vic. While I certainly agree with the whole 'taking care of your elected officials' 'thing', such as providing the president of the US with a plane, helicopter, limos etc, he is the PRESIDENT.. not a TOWN ADMINISTRATOR....

OuToFtHeLoOp said...

iamcomingtogetyou..I am sad to see that you are supposed to be in charge of a PIOLICE DEPARTMENT, and you are posting things here like a little High School Teenager, and acting as one as well. Phantom is correct about truth coming out, it is only a matter time, and there will be some real exciting things going on.
iamcomingtogetyou I would like to also first admit that I do not have the best spelling skills, and that is partly due to growing up with computers and haveing SPELL CHECK. Advice for you...Official Documents when finished typeing in Microsoft Word, Click Spell Check, It really Works. It will also find most grammatical errors.

Wiley Coyote said...

theunexpectedbill said...

"I've read and re-read these statements about who did what and when. It leaves me wondering why the officer followed the Lt home... why didn't he do his job, or make other arrangements for someone to come and get the Lt? By doing that, didn't he leave the town 'unprotected'? Imagine what happens when the Lt gets mad and tries to have the officer fired... can you see the headlines and the lawsuit?"

The answer to that is simple. The officer would've been fired for 'other' reasons that Brooks and Shane would've invented the next day. In fact, they could've used the ever reliable 'restructuring' excuse that the seem so fond of.

theunexpectedbill said...

"The other issues of the Lt drinking and partying with subordinates.. well, it goes without saying that under any circumstance that under military rule that would be improper. The police department is not a military organization, so why is it a problem?"

It's a problem because the lieutenant was told not to do it. Same as he was told not to go around city hall and not to take personal hunting trips and pull his boat with his patrol vehicle. He continued doing these things throwing it right back in Jimmy's face and pretty much daring him to do something about it.

theunexpectedbill said...

"Everyone is accountable for their own decisions, these officers didn't seem to mind drinking with their 'drinking buddy' did they? These are grown men who are paid to make grown men decisions."

The lieutenant wasn't always what he is now. Granted, he was probably hiding his true nature all that time, (wolf in sheep's clothing), but alot of officers unfortunately fell into the whole 'clique' thing because they were new to law enforcement and didn't know any better. That's obviously what the lieutenant looks for when he interviews people. He LOVED telling new officers how he's 'gonna be in charge' and how 'the chief only thinks he runs the show'. Also, look out Shane because he's saying the same things about YOU now. As for these officers being grown and making 'grown up decisions', the are treated like children so why not act like it? It is not their place to lead by example so they can't be held responsible.

theunexpectedbill said...

"At the very least, the Lt should have been reprimanded."

That all comes back full circle to him disobeying Jimmy's direct orders on a daily basis and even answers the question alot of people are asking which is, "Why didn't Jimmy get rid of him when he had the chance?" Another simple answer...Because of what he knows. He's protected by Shane and Kevin because of all the illegal, immoral and unethical activity that he's been involved in with them. Jimmy's hands were tied. It is hilarious now, though, watching them all having to look over their shoulders at one another since not one can be trusted by the other. Does he even know that when Jimmy came back from his 2 weeks, (which I refer to as 'Dan days'), and had him, Eric Washington and Jerome White in his office that when Shane was told about it at city hall he began laughing and said, "Good! I hope he fires them all!" That was because he wanted Jimmy to do his dirty work for him and wash his hands of the whole thing since he was through using the lieutenant for he needed him for. The problem for him now, though, is that Jimmy didn't do it so now he's gotta wait on this new chief, (which is only gonna be a 'yes man'), to come in and 'take care of it.'

theunexpectedbill said...

"There is no policy in that department, other than what is written on paper and thrown in your in-box for that day, subject to tomorrow's new 'policy'."

Excellent point!

Anonymous said...

wiley coyote, I appreciate and respect your responses to my questions.

I didn't consider the restructuring response to the firing aspect.

I HAVE to agree with your comments about Dan Martin. He did seem to take on the younger inexperienced officers and take them under his wing so-to-speak. He did involve them in his off-duty antics. I believe with all my being that the reason I was never his favorite was because I was older and more experienced and did not believe in half the stuff he as spewing out to the younger officers.

and I HAVE to disagree on just ONE point: These ARE grown MEN being paid to make grown MEN decisions.. it seems that they fell out of favor with the Lt and are now belly aching, because a lot of them are just as guilty as he for being involved in those shenanigans.

and btw, during my time I, Dan Martin was the patrol supervisor and did have day to day control over patrol ops.. in essence, he was in charge.

G L MORRIS said...

or should I say? i-am-coming-to-get-u! said just keep writing those tickets.wiley coyote i am so disappointed in u.its breaks my heart.
I understand that two of the officers were in court with you today in Ridgeland,at the same time wiley coyote was blogging.

So out of 9 officers minus the 2 that were with you that leaves 7 it may take you a while but if you keep up with the names you should have it figured out long after Shane has kicked you to the curb and left you for the new cheif to FIRE!!!!!

"CitizenKane" said...

Hey G little slow on the intake!PEACE OUT HOMIE!!!8)

pop-50 said...

LT , I mean i-coming-to-get-u!
COME GET YOU SOME!!

It's Janet. Miss Jackson If You're Nasty. said...

Sigh...another back stabber and thief in the making at HPD.

Peace Out Homie!!!